Here are some points people have missed, and perhaps I should have elaborated on that post more. I apologize for that on my behalf, but I think I should write a post in defense of my views. Didn't think it would cause a riot!
A) I believe I addressed the point that the trainers are NOT in the water, which is obvious they are approaching him (and even the rest of the orcas) differently
B) I never said I was an expert at Sea World, their procedures in running the park/shows, and the psychology of animals, etc.
C) I do not get all of my information from the the movie The Cove
D) I never said anywhere that I hated orcas, or that Tilikum should be criminalized for killing that trainer. On the contrary, these animals are beautiful, and I am sure he had no intentions of hurting the trainer
E) When I meant Sea World family, I meant he was back with the others to perform in the shows. I apologize again for not elaborating
F) I use a little something called common sense. If a criminal is convicted, the second worst outcome for his punishment (and that can be argued against the death penalty being the first) is LIFE IN PRISON. We reserve incarcerating convicts to life in prison. I am quite sure animals in captivity are NOT living up to their full potential of being a happy animal in the wild.
"Some of those animals were hurt or endangered," etc. It's good that trainers help those animals, to nurture and rehabilitate them. Take them back into the wild, if possible. If not, then the last resort is to take care of them in captivity.
A person would have to be gullible if they thought Sea World was in best interest for the animals. Clearly, they're not, only seeing these animals for profit. People want to see these majestic animals up close and personal, performing with a beach ball and doing back flips while acting cute. If not, then this crazy idea of having Sea World, zoo's, and Animal Kingdom would have never existed if people weren't willing to pay to visit. Money is always the name of the game, and these poor animals pay the price for living in captivity.
I have no doubt these trainers love these animals, love their profession in teaching people like us conservation, to keep the planet healthy and our waters clean. But I can learn all of that, and not have to pay 30 bucks to see them jump around and demean them like that for buckets of fish.
Sorry that I’m just now answering this, but I had to wait until I wasn’t so motivated by my anger.
The way you worded that post implied that you feel you could do a better job. Obviously, these animals cannot be released. It’s expensive, a very long process, stressful towards the animals, and a lot of them were either born in captivity or we don’t really have an idea of which pod they came from. I understand that you don’t get all of your information from the Cove, but it still isn’t really a good source. I do suggest you watch the investigation of the Cove on youtube. It’s long, and the narrator speaks in a monotone type of voice, but if you’re going to get involved in an argument of this magnitude, I think it’s best to find the most valid sources of information. After watching them, I didn’t want to just believe what they said, or I would be a hypocrite, so I googled the information they had said, and searched through a few databases and I couldn’t find one thing that contradicted what they said.
In response to your point “D,” you did criminalize him in a way. While these animals are extremely intelligent, he can’t justify what he did to Dawn. By saying he shouldn’t be put back in shows is a punishment in it’s own. Tilly can’t just float around all day. He needs some kind of enrichment, or basically, it wouldn’t be pretty. That would be neglect. Besides, the shows are something that Tilly is used to. He’s been doing them for a while. If they didn’t put him back in shows, people would complain about him being in isolation, but no. They want him to interact with something or someone, yet the second he goes back to shows everyone has a problem with it. It’s hypocritical.
Sure, shows aren’t exactly as educational as they used to be, and they make the animals do complex behaviors, but that elicts two emotions in someone who is watching the shows:
1. It gives them a sense of awe. To think that an animal of that size could propel itself out of the water, or wave at a crowd, it gives you a curiosity and a respect for them. It inspires you to learn more about them. While being at the shows themselves may not be as educational, people still leave there with a thirst for knowledge about these animals, and when you pay attention to what SeaWorld really stands for, education, conservation and connection, you can understand how beneficial these shows are to the species.
2. The second emotion is incredibility. What the people at Seaworld do is extraordinary. Every day, they go out and do something, nobody ever thought was possible. Most children when they are very young have this idea, or this notion that they can communicate with animals. By going to SeaWorld, that’s exactly what they are doing. When you feel as if you can communicate with, and connect with an animal, it stirs a feeling inside you, that you want to do whatever you can that ultimately benefits this animal and it’s descendants.
In response to your point “F”:
You don’t have to insult my intelligence. I may not be an adult, but I think I have a pretty good sense of what is right and what is wrong. Earlier I saw a post that said something along the lines of, “Even murders go on parole.” While Tilly cannot be called a murderer, because we don’t really know why he did it, he still can’t be denied of his lifestyle. You said, “I am quite sure animals in captivity are NOT living up to their full potential of being a happy animal in the wild.,” yet earlier you said, “I never said I was an expert at Sea World, their procedures in running the park/shows, and the psychology of animals, etc.” I don’t understand how you can be so sure about an animal’s feelings, when you’ve spent absolutely no time around them or caring for them. You can’t even tell if the animals in the wild are happy. Recent research is proving otherwise. Cetaceans are under a LOT of stress right now, considering these factors:
1. 6% of the Earth’s waters are polluted. That takes it’s toll on animals, especially dolphins and killer whales.
2. There is an increase in water traffic all over the planet. While some argue that instead of seeing the “oh so stressed captive killer orcas,” we should all hop on a ferry and go whale watching. There’s a huge issue with this. If you think that the SeaWorld whales are stressed, imagine just walking around and you hear this noise. Hanging out in your neighborhood and this noise won’t go away. The sounds of boat motors are extremely annoying and stunt breeding in many killer whale communities. While many people leave from these tours with a new respect for these whales, the same thing happens at Seaworld. Another issue with whale watching tours: The more exciting it is, the more money the captain makes. This tempts people to get even closer to these whales which could affect them in ways that we don’t know about. These whales are still not fully understood, and they are quickly dying out. Everyone says that they are species that is sustaining themselves in the wild, when actually it says that it is “data deficient.”
Most of the animals, minus the killer whales, have been rescued. Many of the dolphins at Seaworld aren’t even owned by them, so they cannot release them if they wanted to. If you tried releasing Corky, she would most likely die for a multitude of reasons. Her age, is one factor. It would inevitably cause stress on her, that wouldn’t help anything. Another thing: Corky not only is blind in one eye, but she is missing all of her teeth. She would probably have the least successful release. Tilly probably wouldn’t have a good result either. Judging from his history, you can obviously assume he isn’t used to having trainers or people in general in the water with him. Could you imagine if he came across a beach because he left his trainers, and suddenly found some children, who he thought might give him food? Keiko was being trained while living in the sea pen. He had people constantly in the water with him, and they still had to feed him. With Tilly, he couldn’t have that interaction. They would have to keep a distance, and if anything happened, SeaWorld would be liable.
Whale watching tours are expensive, and there are limited areas where you can see killer whales in the wild. It costs more money to go there, and just watch a whale swim, than it does to go to SeaWorld and witness the connection that you could have with these animals.
Who knows, maybe SeaWorld is in it for the money. Maybe I am just a gullible little sheep running around believing what they tell me. But I will tell you this, SeaWorld has affected me in a way that nobody else has. It has taught me so much about our oceans, and it has given me the deepest respect for these animals, and the desire to help be a part of saving this species. While you may not agree with captivity, and I may be a hardcore SeaWorld fan girl, at least we can agree on something:
We believe in the things we do because we have the best interest of this animal in mind.
And while you may or may not have been to SeaWorld in the past, it has still affected you and made you want to do something about killer whales and dolphins. So ultimately, you are helping SeaWorld’s greatest mission; to educate people and to show them that these animals need our help.
I respect your opinion, and I apologize for the length of this post.